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Chasing Ennui's avatar

Your review alludes to one of the problem I've always had with reparations - I have no confidence that they will actually wipe the slate clean.

We've had a bunch of programs intended to correct past racism and they never seem to do all that much. I think you could probably get support for some pretty massive reparation program if, in exchange, there was some agreement that no one could ever complaint about historic racism again, but the likely outcome is what you describe in the Kansas City schools or sub-prime loans, where there's a big effort undertaken, nothing is actually accomplished and people either ignore it, or even treat it as an example of further racism in their next book arguing for reparations.

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Thanks. This one is a bit personal.

I started elementary school at the beginning of the 1970s in Dade County, Florida, which was then integrating its schools. My mom had just moved there from Maryland with four young children; I was the youngest. In first and third grades I attended Sunset Elementary, to which many black students were bused; in second grade I was myself bused to George Washington Carver.

It was a mixed experience for me. I had a wonderful first grade teacher who helped bring me out of terrible self-imposed isolation, and some of my new classmates were very nice. But some of them terrified me. (This did not, however, affect my attitudes; I was very much in favor of integration (to the extent an ignorant boy can be in favor of anything), and I thought the greatest scientists of all time were Albert Einstein and, naturally, George Washington Carver.)

The experiences of my older brother and sister in junior high were much worse than mine; they were beaten up and robbed repeatedly. My gentle, conventionally liberal mother was horrified to learn that black students had broken into a school library and (forgive me) ejaculated on the library books. (I wonder if that episode ever made it into any histories of integration in Florida.) By the beginning of my fourth grade year my mom had admitted defeat; we moved back to Maryland. We all attended integrated schools for the remainder of our educations, in Maryland and upstate South Carolina, and never had experiences like those in Dade County again. But we didn't forget, either; and Dade County probably affects my opinions more now than it did at the time.

For a child actually going to school with lower class blacks, the idea that they are oppressed can seem bizarre; Norman Podhoretz made that observation very pungently in a 1963 essay, https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-podhoretz/my-negro-problem-and-ours/ .("A city boy’s world is contained within three or four square blocks, and in my world it was the whites, the Italians and Jews, who feared the Negroes, not the other way around. The Negroes were tougher than we were, more ruthless, and on the whole they were better athletes. What could it mean, then, to say that they were badly off and that we were more fortunate?")

Whatever tricks real estate agents might pull, it seems obvious that blockbusting would never have worked -- white people could never have been persuaded to part with their most valuable assets, not to mention leave neighborhoods where they'd spent decades -- if they had not been genuinely terrified. I know why they were afraid.

It seems like there is a great book to be written about white flight from the perspective of the people who were fleeing. I don't think the works you cite in your fn 63 quite exhaust the topic. But I suspect that book will never be written.

Statements like "Costs will… be involved, and we should accept that those costs are part of our constitutional obligation" in Rothstein's book are enraging; whatever those costs are, he won't pay them. I was going to say that they will be paid by families like mine, but I'm not sure that's true. The country is very distant, politically and demographically, from the one I grew up in. My mother grew up in Queens, when most of the public school students in NYC were white. Now 16.2% are, compared to 16.3% of students described as English Language Learners. Whites are the 4th most common ethnic group, behind Hispanics, blacks and Asians. Integration is sort of a dead letter in NYC now, because there aren't many white kids to integrate with. https://www.schools.nyc.gov/about-us/reports/doe-data-at-a-glance

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