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Chasing Ennui's avatar

Maybe you're just not doing the Neoreactionary position justice, but it seems to suffer from the same problem as any other theory that does away with justice - it doesn't account for Stalin. You say Yarvin seems to assume that the "CEO" will "make it a good place to live because a happy territory is a profitable territory," but then you wind up with Stalin or Kim Jong-Un or Caligula, who may have interests beyond profitability. And while I have some libertarian leanings, I'm not convinced that "a happy territory" is always a "profitable territory," or at least a profitable territory for the ruler. I'm fairly confident that slavery is inefficient across society, but plantation owners seemed to benefit from it, and it's more of an open question whether the plantation owners in particular would have lived materially better lives if they had freed their slaves and started paying them.

While the "right to exit" provides some salve to this problem, as the CEO may want to keep his citizens/subjects happy to avoid their leaving, the typical dictator's solution to this problem is to immediately take that right away - it's how we got the Berlin Wall. I'm not sure by what magic Yarvin intends to guarantee the right to exist.

There's a monologue in High Fidelity where Cusack recognizes that he's always drawn to cheat on or leave his current girlfriend because he imagines the next woman in sexy lingerie while he sees his current girlfriend's actual granny panties drying on the rack in the bathroom, but, in reality that the next woman will also have granny panties drying on the rack in the bathroom. The same is true when it comes to government. It's easy to imagine alternative forms of government as better, but that's because we are only imagining them in sexy lingerie while we see democracy's actual (metaphorical) granny panties drying in the bathroom, but these alternative forms of government have their own metaphorical granny panties, and a lot of times, those metaphorical granny panties come in the form of mass repression, famine, genocide and torture. I'll stick with democracy.

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Ollie Parks's avatar

The Decoding the Gurus podcast devoted over two hours to Curtis Yarvin not long ago. This is the hosts' description of the episode:

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In this long-anticipated episode, Matt and Chris venture into the peculiar world of Curtis Yarvin—a reactionary blogger, tech entrepreneur, and self-proclaimed monarchist. Known to his early followers by the pseudonym "Mencius Moldbug," Yarvin has become a prominent figure in the "dark enlightenment" and neo-reactionary circles. Some have even hailed him as an "intellectual powerhouse" of the modern far-right, with endorsements from influential figures like Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance.

But what is Curtis really all about? In this episode, the decoders revisit the Triggernometry swamp to examine the political insights unearthed by the hard-nosed journalists Konstantin and Francis during their ferocious intellectual exchange with Yarvin.

Prepare for thrilling revelations, including the historical figures and movements Yarvin has catalogued in his encyclopedic memory, his pick for the best Elizabethan monarch, and the surprising number of non-monarchs he believes are secretly running monarchical regimes. True to form, Yarvin’s rhetorical style is nothing if not meandering. So get ready for a whirlwind tour through his "mind palace," exploring topics like Soviet Russia, Elizabethan England, Shakespearean conspiracy theories, and a fantasy world of reactionary and techno-libertarian musings—not to mention the obligatory lab-leak narratives.

Is Yarvin an edgy intellectual, a provocative contrarian, or just a verbose windbag with run-of-the-mill conspiratorial takes and a moody teenager's perspective on history? Matt and Chris tackle these questions, striving to decode Yarvin’s vision for society—and hoping, against all odds, that he might in the end just answer a single question.

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The episode can be found here:

https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-view-from-neoreaction/comments?utm_source=substack%2Csubstack&publication_id=863356&post_id=158055362&utm_medium=email%2Cemail&isFreemail=true&comments=true&utm_campaign=email-half-magic-comments&action=post-comment

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